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obama's becoming or who mitt romney's becoming or who you or i or nora are becoming because that's the character issue that's going to outlast our career. >> i've listened to people on television talk about -- a worry that we're becoming more secular. on the other hand you're expanding -- >> yeah. >> are you worried about where we are as a society and our relationship to religion? >> well, you know one of the big reports that's been reported over and over and over nine months ago "newsweek" had a cover, "the decline and fall of christian america." in december, "newsweek," declines and falls. christianity is going to go on for another 2,000 years. these predictions of the church's demise are highly exaggerated. kingdoms come and gone. where's the syrian empire where's the nozazi regime? things come and go. there's misinterpreting of data. there was a result that came out that said the number of protestants in america i think it was a pugh study, dropped precipitously. of course it does. nobody calls themselves a protestant anymore. i don't know a single person. i
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